<div>Occult practices are generally and commonly related to,
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d. Not believing in caste or descent untouchabililty, Magic spells, incantation, omens, auspicious times, days and occasions, influence of stars, horoscopic dispositions, Shradh (ritual serving of food to priests for the salvation of ancestor on appointed days as per the lunar calendar), Ancestor worship, khiah (ritual serving of food to priests - Brahmins - on the lunar anniversaries of death of an ancestor)
In the following post palaingtha states that Occult practices are recognized in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji
Unfortunately the author shows considerable lack of understanding in how Guru ji use analogies, metaphorics as style to not prove people wrong or create time wasting debates but rather teach the positive alternatives. Guruji try not to put down things or practices people follow but shine light on better spirituality and ways. Gurujis style is that they want the student (all Sikhs) to self learn and then see.
In not putting down, the author and many others somehow assume that Guruji actually have vetted such powers or practices. Nothing could be further from the truth in such wrong assumptions contorted by many.
Let us take an excerpt as to how palaingtha ji mis-uses and applies missive understanding to somehow deduce that Occultism is recognized in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji,
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Here is Gurbani on Occult powers practiced by people with page references.
OCCULT POWERS - SIDHIS
ਰਿਧਿ ਸਿਧਿ ਸਭੁ ਮੋਹੁ ਹੈ ਨਾਮੁ ਨ ਵਸੈ ਮਨਿ ਆਇ ॥:
What is occult power? Also known as Sidhis, Ashvarayas, Tant Mant (tantar mantar or tantra mantra), miraculous powers, spiritual powers, supernatural powers, magical powers, psychic powers, super human powers, super sensory phenomena, extrasensory perceptions, and so on, are in fact divine powers which can be manifested by any living being who has obtained mastery over the forces of the creation or nature through special training and practice of certain substance or Mantraas.
Sidhis or Siddhis - supernatural powers - are said to be eighteen in number. Of them, the eight are known as major and the remaining are considered minor. The eight principle Sidhis are as follows: the power to assume form as small as atom (Anima), as large as mountain (Mahimaa), as light in weight as ------The system was not accepting more words.
In a convoluted way the author seems to suggest that just the mention of such is the proof of their existence, efficacy or acceptance by Guru ji. I believe this is highly dis-respectful and borders on missing the fundamental teachings of Sikhism in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.
I sincerely wish that people (at least Sikhs) pay heed to some basic approach to studying and learning from Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. In this age of the Internet it is far too easy to distort, post and deduce and repeat to make something believable. A Guru ji
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- astrology, alchemy, divination, magic, and witchcraft and sorcery
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s) zwq-pwq, CUq-Cwq, jMqR-mMqR-qMqR, Sgn, iq`Q, mhUrq, gRih, rwS, SrwD, ip`qr, iKAwh, ipMf p`ql, dIvw, ikirAw krm, hom, j`g, qrpx, isKw sUq, B`dx, iekwdSI, pUrnmwSI Awid dy vrq, iqlk, jM\U,qulsI, mwlw, gor, m`T, mVHI, mUrqI pUjw Awid Brm-rUp krmW auqy inscw nhIN krnw[ gur AsQwn qoN iksy An-Drm dy qIrQ jW Dwm nUM Awpxw AsQwn nhIN mMnxw[ pIr, bRwhmx, pu`Cxw, su`Kxw, SIrnI, vyd Swsqr, gwieqRI,gIqw, kurwn, AMjIl Awid auqy inScw nhIN krnw[ hW, Awm vwkPI leI AnmqW dy gRMQW dw pVHnw Xog hY[
d. Not believing in caste or descent untouchabililty, Magic spells, incantation, omens, auspicious times, days and occasions, influence of stars, horoscopic dispositions, Shradh (ritual serving of food to priests for the salvation of ancestor on appointed days as per the lunar calendar), Ancestor worship, khiah (ritual serving of food to priests - Brahmins - on the lunar anniversaries of death of an ancestor)
In the following post palaingtha states that Occult practices are recognized in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji
Unfortunately the author shows considerable lack of understanding in how Guru ji use analogies, metaphorics as style to not prove people wrong or create time wasting debates but rather teach the positive alternatives. Guruji try not to put down things or practices people follow but shine light on better spirituality and ways. Gurujis style is that they want the student (all Sikhs) to self learn and then see.
In not putting down, the author and many others somehow assume that Guruji actually have vetted such powers or practices. Nothing could be further from the truth in such wrong assumptions contorted by many.
Let us take an excerpt as to how palaingtha ji mis-uses and applies missive understanding to somehow deduce that Occultism is recognized in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji,
Quote:
Here is Gurbani on Occult powers practiced by people with page references.
OCCULT POWERS - SIDHIS
ਰਿਧਿ ਸਿਧਿ ਸਭੁ ਮੋਹੁ ਹੈ ਨਾਮੁ ਨ ਵਸੈ ਮਨਿ ਆਇ ॥:
What is occult power? Also known as Sidhis, Ashvarayas, Tant Mant (tantar mantar or tantra mantra), miraculous powers, spiritual powers, supernatural powers, magical powers, psychic powers, super human powers, super sensory phenomena, extrasensory perceptions, and so on, are in fact divine powers which can be manifested by any living being who has obtained mastery over the forces of the creation or nature through special training and practice of certain substance or Mantraas.
Sidhis or Siddhis - supernatural powers - are said to be eighteen in number. Of them, the eight are known as major and the remaining are considered minor. The eight principle Sidhis are as follows: the power to assume form as small as atom (Anima), as large as mountain (Mahimaa), as light in weight as ------The system was not accepting more words.
In a convoluted way the author seems to suggest that just the mention of such is the proof of their existence, efficacy or acceptance by Guru ji. I believe this is highly dis-respectful and borders on missing the fundamental teachings of Sikhism in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.
I sincerely wish that people (at least Sikhs) pay heed to some basic approach to studying and learning from Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. In this age of the Internet it is far too easy to distort, post and deduce and repeat to make something believable. A Guru ji
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